Episode 247

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18th Mar 2026

How debt recycling can make you money

Debt recycling explained: how Australians turn home equity into investments

In this Friends With Money episode from Money magazine, host Ryan Johnson chats with mortgage broker Joseph Daoud (It’s Simple Finance) to unpack debt recycling in plain English. They explain how splitting your home loan or using a line of credit lets you access equity to invest in property, shares or a business, with potential tax benefits from deductible interest and investment expenses. They work through a $1 million home example, outline who this suits (often higher-income earners and many self-employed borrowers), and step through setup essentials: pick the right lender and structure (often interest-only), team up with a good broker and accountant, and keep the investment purpose clear. They also flag the big risks—bad advice, risky assets, rising rates, thin buffers—and why retirees or lower-income earners can be overexposed without a solid exit plan.

Timestamps

00:00 What debt recycling is

01:09 How the structure works

02:38 Who it suits

04:33 Goals and tax benefits

05:35 A real case study

08:02 Setting up the loan split

11:23 Choosing investments

12:13 Risks and rate rises

16:38 Which pros to call

17:34 Who should avoid it

20:43 Three rules and wrap

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We all have questions about money; how to earn it, how to spend it, and the best ways to invest so we can watch it grow.

The Friends With Money podcast, created by Money Magazine (Australia’s longest-running and most-read personal finance magazine), shares its extensive network of finance experts, in-depth knowledge of markets and timely advice to help you understand the world of money.

Hosted by senior writer, Tom Watson, Managing Editor, Vanessa Walker and editor-in-chief, Michelle Baltazar, Friends With Money is a weekly chat with a variety of credentialed guests that you won’t want to miss. Listening and learning will help you on the path to financial freedom.